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-=DoW=- JBDiamonds
September 23rd, 2004, 10:46
I hope this hits every email address in the country!

It is time for the majority to rule!

Samuel Thompson wrote: I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December.

I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when a high school teacher teaches his theory of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game.

So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts.

They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.

"But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles and we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect, somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome...

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them?

Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us.

And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.

The silent majority has been silent too long.. it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules!

It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away We are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all, the God you have the right to denounce is on our side!

God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him... God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all....

God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God...

May 2004 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.

Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust

If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, delete it!! --

In God We Trust!!!

tyler_durden
September 23rd, 2004, 12:11
very good message :banger:

-=DoW=- boba_fett
September 23rd, 2004, 15:24
Whether you are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Atheist, or any other -ist you should be able to understand and respect the views and statements presented here. I am proud not only of my own religion, but also of the fact that in this country we are all supposed to be given an equal chance to worship and practice our religion. With that said, I do not see anyone trying to take away the rights of any religion other than the Judeo-Christian religions at this magnitude. All people will be persecuted for their beliefs in many ways, that is the nature of not only religion, but also of all mankind. We always believe that our way is better than somebody else's. But especially in this country where there are so many different customs, beliefs, religions, races, and all other demographic variances, we should take the time to respect others in their pursuit of their rights.

IMHO, everyone should take those 30 seconds to pray to whomever they want, or to just hope, for the well-being and protection of not only those that are entertaining us, but also for those that don't have life as good as we do here. If the vocal minority were to step forward and try to make someone else's life better as much as they speak out about trivial nuances of religious practice, the world would be a much better place for everyone.

Panda
September 23rd, 2004, 19:05
Excellent message JB. Thank you much! :)

-=DoW=- WIZ_PLAYER
September 23rd, 2004, 21:37
Well put JB and boba I couldnt have said it any better.


Wiz

-=DoW=- Wildman
September 26th, 2004, 03:15
I agree, well put guys :banger: :banger:

-=DoW=- Bush8
September 26th, 2004, 08:21
Very good message :D

-=DoW=- resqman
September 28th, 2004, 23:31
The main reason folks came to this country was the freedom of religion. That being a given then the freedom of religion (as guaranteed by the constitution) is awarded to all. So, to be able to support the Constitution, all religions are awarded equal rights. I think no one here will deny that.

Given that, then ALL religions should be given equal time. So, if we want to give a prayer before each game then we should give equal time to all recognized religions.

How long would it take to do this? It would become a hinderance to everything we do!!!

Therefore the Govt has wisely decided to not allow Christian prayer at govt sponsered events (they have no control over privete events) If they sponser one religion they have to sponser them all

There is nothing that disallows an individuals right to prayer, nor even a groups as long as it does not impinge on another groups to do the same.

As per Jefferson in an act for the State of VIrginia

A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom

"SECTION I. Well aware that the opinions and belief of men depend not on their own will, but follow involuntarily the evidence proposed to their minds; that Almighty God hath created the mind free, and manifested his supreme will that free it shall remain by making it altogether insusceptible of restraint; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments, or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, who being lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, but to exalt it by its influence on reason alone; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world and through all time: That to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness; and is withdrawing from the ministry those temporary rewards, which proceeding from an approbation of their personal conduct, are an additional incitement to earnest and unremitting labours for the instruction of mankind; that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry; that therefore the proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion, is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages to which, in common with his fellow citizens, he has a natural right; that it tends also to corrupt the principles of that very religion it is meant to encourage, by bribing, with a monopoly of worldly honours and emoluments, those who will externally profess and conform to it; that though indeed these are criminals who do not withstand such temptation, yet neither are those innocent who lay the bait in their way; that the opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty, because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgment, and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own; that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself; that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate; errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them.

"SECTION II. We the General Assembly of Virginia do enact that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.

"SECTION III. And though we well know that this Assembly, elected by the people for the ordinary purposes of legislation only, have no power to restrain the acts of succeeding Assemblies, constituted with powers equal to our own, and that therefore to declare this act irrevocable would be of no effect in law; yet we are free to declare, and do declare, that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right."

Gungjuilio
September 30th, 2004, 08:00
If any of these people relize what our country was founded on....they would see that it was founded on freedom of religion....Nice one JB :banger: :banger: :banger: